Mandatas
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Dark/dangerous spiritsI personally think and strongly believe that we should not encourage these spirits to join us either in a circle or at any other time.
We will not allow anyone on our vigils/invests who is likely to try and do this, it is not what we are out there for. We are there to gather information and to help rescue spirits in need.
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trace
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I couldn't agree more
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alan
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I back you 100%, there is enoth evil in this world without bringing more in.
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Mandatas
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Thanks guys, I thought you might. 
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alan
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If you watched haunted houses on ITV2 tonight, you'll know what ouija boards can do. With a circle on a vigil, if you invite a dark sprit, it will do the same as a ouija board.
Evil has to be invited and can not just come uninvited.
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Mandatas
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At least thats one good thing. I'm gonna watch it later, I've recorded it. I wonder if someone we know was watching it  
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Silver
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As in life if the person who has passed over was good then thier spirit will be if they were bad then why would they change when passing over.
I also think that providing you obtain enough information with who you are linking to then you should be able to aid them in healing if that is what you want to do.
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Mandatas
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I agree with the personality thing, why would they change just because they no longer have a body to use here on the earth plain. I also think some bad/evil (whatever you want to call them) spirits would not want to change and therefore could not be helped.
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Silver
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They probably would not want to change and they maybe on a different journey path then other spirits/entities.
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Mandatas
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I guess that is why some are still grounded, because they will not learn and move on?
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harmony
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Very true Manda. I would never encourage a dark spirit to come through had two very nasty experiances with them, and wouldnt want to repeat them....... ever........ 
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Mandatas
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Your a wise lady hun!!!! They should definately not b encouraged, as Alan quite rightly said, there is enough evil in this world we live in, without bringing something in from another!
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alan
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When a person passes overto sprit, they can not lie.
Someone like Hitler when passing would go to level six, this is dark and most hide from evil on level seven, but this is were good and evil meet.
The angels will come down to this level and they are given the chance to go into the light, Demans will also try to get them to pass into the dark side.
Most people think that when you pass, you go to the gates of heaven to be judged by Saint Peter, this is not true because you judge yourself. At this stage of passing, a sprit can not lie.
It is said that we live many times in our teachings in the sprit world, the more times we come back, the more we learn.
If it is a first time sprit here, it's easy for the devil to get to them, ie like Hitler.
If you have american indian guides, ask them about the seven plans. Agood teacher of this is Silver Berch, he has wrote many books through mediums
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Mandatas
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Thanks Alan, I will do that with my guide.
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Silver
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I'm a little confused on this Alan, hope you can clear it up for me. :)
If you are a returning spirit e.g reincarnation does this mean you are less susceptible to possible evil forces?
Also regarding the judging yourself part, if as you state that being a first timer on this planet and are more than likely susceptible to the 'devil' how would you honestly judge yourself when passed over when you have the highest trickster working within you?
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Mandatas
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Good question Silver. I love this subject, could talk about it for hours.
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Dark and evil spiritsI must tell you all this. I am 6'6" tall. I have an IQ of just under 200. Women find me irresistable and are always throwing themselves at me. I could work if I wanted to, but what is the point? I have that much money that if I worked, the taxman would get it all.
Oh yes, I forgot. I only have one vice. Have you guessed what it is? That's right. I tell a lot of lies. I am a real twister and will tell any number of lies to get what I want. I prey on people. Now it has been said that my character will not change with my passing. So my question is this. How can you control what comes through in either a seance or when using a Ouija board? You may invite good, honest spirits, but you may get me!
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Mandatas
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That is true TC, I am not totally sure on this (Alan would be the one to confirm it really), but I think we have more control during a seance/circle than we do when using a Ouija board.
The contact during a circle is personal with one or more mediums in that circle, but the contact by using a ouija board keeps you one step away from the spirit.
I hope that makes sense.
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alan
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Hi TC, you believe in the spirit world by what you wrote, my answer to this would be if you were in spirit, if you passed into the light, then there would be no lies.
If you were a traped or grounded spirit, or at unrest, then yes i would try to help if i could, but you would have to step into the circle of light first.
If you were not willing to do this, then i would not know you were there in the first place.
When i comes to the Ouija boards, i can take you around to some houses were people have used them and have not been in full control and have had a lot of problems, the latest is a chap i went to school with.
I know some mediums do use these and have strong minds and guides and fill safe using these, the school friend has been using one for over ten years untell things went wrong. The darker the spirit, the stronger you need to be.
So my friend, if you were coming to me in a circle or trance, it would have to be through the light and i always ask for spirit protection from Saint Germain so i know that i am always safe in what ever i do and in circle we all have our own guides as well,
What you say now, when your time comes for passing, most pass into the light and are happy in going and do not do what they think they will do in life, i just hope and pray that weny your time does come that you will find your peace and 99.9% sure you will.
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Dark/dangerous spiritsI have never heard of anyone saying anything good about Ouija boards. Some people say that they are only a tool and some shops sell them as childrens toys. However, I have also heard of dark entities coming through from non-human origins. Entities which are not what they claim to be.
My only experience of Ouija boards is when a glass, being used instead of a planchette, flew off the table and smashed against the wall. I have not been near one since.
Recently, I attended a location which was also used by a rather expensive commercial organisation and they had left a table set up ready for use using an upturned glass and yes and no cards. They also had a plastic 'tomb stone' on the table. My group removed the cards and stone and then used the upturned glass, which moved as a Yes reply and remained still for a no. I must admit to feeling uncomfortable using this. We detected a lot of trapped spirits in the room, which were being contained by one other spirit. We tried to distract this spirit to enable the others to move on. This annoyed the spirit and all contact ceased.
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Mandatas
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Sounds like an interesting experience TC
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